Vol. 13 No. 44 • July 29 - August 4, 2010 THE TRI-CITIES' WEEKLY ALTERNATIVE- ONLINE EDITION


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FORGOTTEN REBELS


STILL FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT



by Eric Schulz
February 17 – 22, 2005
“You know, I recommend that everyone buy the single “We Built This City on Rock ’n’ roll” by Jefferson Starship and let their friends listen to it,” says Mickey De Sadist, “in the same way I would recommend someone buy a joke book and laugh at it.” Speaking out against the evils of corporate rock is nothing new for Forgotten Rebels frontman Mickey De Sadist. As one of this country’s originators of punk rock, De Sadist has been fighting the good fight against mainstream music. However, don’t let that fool you into thinking De Sadist is a predictable punk. This interview just might surprise you and change what you thought you knew about the Forgotten Rebels and their riotous frontman. While many old school punks seem to froth at the mouth at the mere mention of new school punk, De Sadist seems cautious, yet less critical. When asked his opinion of the current crop of bands, he offers, “You’d have to ask Muddy Waters what he thought of the Rolling Stones,” referring offhandedly to the popularity modern punk has bestowed on old school punk. De Sadist continues, “You know what gets me is that I think Green Day is a pretty good band. Everyone seems to forget that the Pointed Sticks sounded exactly like Green Day way back then. [Ed– the Pointed Sticks are generally regarded as one of Canada’s great punk bands from the ’70s.] The Pointed Sticks sounded in the ’70s very much like what Green Day sounded like in the late ’90s.” This ability to appreciate music that some punks may consider sacrilegious should surprise no one. 2003 marked the appearance of the first ever Mickey De Sadist solo album. Entitled Welcome To My Basement and released on Hamilton’s indie punk label Amp Records, the album provided De Sadist with an outlet for his first love: glam rock. And while the songs are definitely De Sadist’s songs, they’re not quite in tune with the Rebels. “The solo album was stuff that I felt like recording that might not have fit [with the Rebels]. When you’re in a band it’s a compromise situation; it’s four guys working as a team.” Despite the fact that De Sadist opted for a non Rebel sound on some of his new songs, he says it’s all relative: “like Mike Ness and his country songs on his solo album. They didn’t sound quite like Social Distortion songs, but it was still Mike Ness. You know, I like the glitter and the glam songs.” But considering that there’s not one, but two G.G. Allin covers (“Scum Fuck Tradition” and “Eat You Out”) on the solo album, there’s more to De Sadist than the glitter and glam. So what’s De Sadist’s fascination with the excrement throwing, animal screwing dead punk rocker? “Yeah! G.G. Allin went too far — that’s what people think. I just laugh. I think G.G. Allin is funny.” Going too far certainly isn’t a foreign concept for De Sadist, who has been accused of just that many times over his career. Perhaps the most wildly held and inaccurate misconception regarding the Rebels is that they are racists. “It’s time that we be nice to each other. And if somebody’s acting out of line, he gets his ass kicked. Racism is stupid,” replies De Sadist to the charge. So there you have it, straight from the mouth of Forgotten Rebels’ lead singer and founder Mickey De Sadist — the Rebels are not a bunch of hate spewing bigots. But it is easy to see why PC sensitive people could come to that conclusion — Forgotten Rebels punk rock classics such as “Bomb the Boats,” “Third Homosexual Murder” and “Live Strippers in Action” aren’t exactly politically correct. De Sadist points out that the band’s most notorious song, “Bomb the Boats” — which concerns the cringe–inducing subject matter of bombing boats with immigrants aboard — was actually a satire on a conversation he overheard between two racist rednecks. “People should listen to our music for what it is. I was making fun of rednecks in “Bomb the Boats.” More than anything, I was just making fun of that. But I guess it came across the wrong way.” But it seems that in the Rebels’ case, bad press truly is good press: “of course you throw some controversy out there just to get some free publicity, ’cause you really don’t feel like paying a fortune for it.” History Lesson The Forgotten Rebels burst onto the Ontario rock scene in 1976. Getting their start in Hamilton, the band began making a name for themselves when they discovered there was a punk scene in Toronto. The Rebels released nine full length albums (including the classics In Love With the System, This Ain’t Hollywood and the untitled album. And while the band has gone through numerous line–up changes, they have stuck to it and kept a distinctive sound. Currently, the band includes longtime guitarist Jeff Campbell, former Dough Boy Paul Newman and former Sven Gali bassist Shawn Maher. In 1976, support for punk wasn’t as strong as today, but there existed pockets of people who dug the precursors of punk, including such bands as the Stooges and the New York Dolls. “There was a few hundred people here and there,” remembers De Sadist. “People read about it. Most of the people who got into punk, like me and my friends, were already into glitter. We were into the New York Dolls, the Stooges, the MC5, Mott the Hoople and Slade, bands like that — so it was a natural progression. So when punk came along it just seems like that was less expensive clothing,” he says laughing. It’s no secret that the early punk scenes all across North America were largely ignored by record labels. Several bands recorded a single or two and then disbanded, never to be heard from again. De Sadist sites the original version of the Fits (best known for their song “Bored of Education,” which was released with Frank Manley’s book Smash the State: A Discography of Canadian Punk, 1977–92), the Dreamdates and Tyranna as examples of bands from the early days of Ontario punk that deserved to be heard, but were never afforded the opportunity. He believes that the record labels just didn’t get punk. “At that point, the record industry was run by such stupid people that missing the punk movement between 1976 and ‘81 was as stupid as missing the Woodstock era. And they actually did it. That goes to show you, you give a suit some responsible and they’ll screw it up.” And when the record labels did smarten up and discovered that there was a new and exciting rock’n’roll scene going on they ended up doing more harm then good. “What happened was the majors got into it and diluted it — turning it into rubbish. And whatever was diluted people just forgot about and started to ignore. Isn’t it amazing that the Ramones are now bigger then they ever were?” Flipping through the junk on Much Music pretty much validates that the Ramones, who are arguably the original punk rock band, truly are bigger now then they ever were. Whether it’s Ashley Simpson or Hilary Duff, teen pop stars have been seen wearing the Ramones eagle — not to mention all the bands coming out of the wood work claiming the Ramones as an influence. “And you wonder if these pop stars really knew what was going on? It’s good that they’re into it now, but it’s just too bad that the Ramones didn’t reap the rewards when they were still alive.” De Sadist continues: “The last thing the record industry wants is to have a band like the Ramones get as big as they are now while they are still alive. Because what that would cause for the record industry, I mean the fans would love it, but what it would cause for the record industry is a loss in investment for all the rubbish bands they’ve invested in. Just think, if the Ramones had got big, what would have happened to Jefferson Starship, and other rubbish units like that? I mean ‘We Built This City on Rock ’n’ roll?’ Can you imagine all the idiots singing that song?” So if you’re in the mood for a good joke and want to hear what music was being shoved down the public’s throat while the original ignored punk scene was at it’s peak — buy Jefferson Starship’s “We Built This City on Rock ’n’ roll.” You’ll regret it! And if you want to hear the real deal check out the Forgotten Rebels in Cambridge Saturday February 19th at Fiddler’s Green Irish Pub. Opening will be The Rotten and The Decay. Tickets are $12 advanced and $15 at the door. FORGOTTEN REBELS w/ The Rotten and The Decay Saturday, February 19 Fiddler’s Green Tix: $12 adv / $15 door www.forgottenrebels.com
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